By following a Simple Baker's Formula, you can easily make a delicious, crusty baguette, epi or round of bread by hand.
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Now that you mention it I think the problem is that I put to much water with the bread in the oven. This was only clarified when I went throught the 2 lessons Stages of Bread Making and How to make bread basics.
I am getting used to handling these classes and starting to really enjoy what you and your teams at Rouxbe have to offer.
I know a Swiss bread-maker who only uses fresh water from a local waterfall, especailly after a heavy rain! No doubt that something as seamingly as simple as bread deserves specific attention. However, this lesson is simply to get people to try breads with everyday ingredients, including tap water; however, filtered water, or a bucket from a nearby waterfall, might work better.
As an instructor, I've learned that the first and greatest victory is to get people to do something with their own hands. Once that happens, understanding the individual ingredients becomes the next logical step. I completely appreciate where you're coming from, and your passion for bread should be an example of why we should all investigate every food we take for granted. But food education and learning requires a slow "fermentation". This forum, rather than a video lesson, is a better place for the details you mention above - at least for now. When we tackle artisianl bread-making, these details will add the necessary layers to the present fundamental lesson.
Good job for experimenting! The window test will be harder to achieve as the whole flour tends to tear through the window. A lesson specifically on whole wheat bread making is not on our production schedule at the moment. We will cover the other bread basics first before moving on to more specific lessons that use specific ingredients. In the meantime, continue to experiment using whole wheat flour in other baked goods by substituting up to 50% of the all-purpose/bread flour for whole wheat. Cheers!
Hey there rouxbe,
I'm having a lot of trouble kneading this dough by hand. In the video it says not to add too much flour because after kneading for a while the mass should start to come together. However, this is the complete opposite for me. I added more than two cups of flour and kneaded for at least ten minutes and still resulted in a huge sloppy mess on my hands and countertop. Can you explain please? I feel like the more I knead the more it wants to loosen up on me.
What type of flour are you using & what is the protein content? Four cups of flour sounds like quite a bit of flour to only one cup of water, but it depends. We do stress not to add too much flour because most beginners go way overboard with flour and wind up with very dense dough. It should feel soft and tacky but not mucky.
If you haven't done so already, please check out the lessons on Bread Basics and the Stages of Bread Making. These lessons go into great detail about the ingredients and how the dough should look. Cheers!
I made bread using this receipe, and have made artisan bread before. It always comes out great, but very dense. Its great for eating by itself with some butter or olive oil etc. , but way to dense to use for a sandwich like you would get in the freshly made bread section of the supermarket.
What can I do to make the bread less dense ?
You can use lower gluten flour, such as all purpose. Longer fermentation, overnight in fridge rather than room temperature, helps.
Getting more air bread by beating with fast speed mixers is how it's done commercially. Achieving that fluffy texture at home is a bit difficult with artisinal ingredients.
It's harder to do this with this type of dough in a home mixer. Commerical-grade mixers are extremely durable and are designed to handle the torque. The motor on your home mixer may not be able to handle it. Try the first couple of suggestions (all-purpose flour, fermentation). If you are looking for a softer dough, this will be covered down the road when we get to Enriched doughs/breads in the Cooking School. This recipe was based on a lean dough which corresponds to the lessons on Bread Basics and the Stages of Bread Making. Cheers!
Again, these types of breads are usually enriched breads which means that they contain fat, eggs and/or other ingredients to soften the dough. It is absolutely possible to make these types of breads at home; however, this is not something that we have covered in the Cooking School - yet. Enriched breads will be covered sometime down the road. While this is a great subject, we are currently focused on producing other lessons in the Cooking School. Cheers!
The first time I made this dough I measured exactly the 1 cup water and 2 cups flour, but it came out very sticky and not able to handle at all. But, when I went back and watched the video, it did say the flour made already have more moisture in it, so a little more flour may be needed. I add less than a 1/4 cup of flour more and it came out perfect. The trick is not too much flour, but enough to be able to handle the dough. I was kneading the dough just like in the cooking school video. What a thrill!! Love the videos. The bread is deeeelicious.
You do not have to change the recipe. The rate of fermentation depends on the temperature. The warmer the temperature, the faster the rise. The colder the temperature, the slower the rise. Dough that is allowed to ferment slower at lower temperatures will develop more flavor because of the slow process. Experiment to see if you prefer one method over the other. Cheers!
Kimberley, my dough doesn't rise in the refrigerator at the same temperature I want my beers chilled! So I have to fermentate it at room temperature, which is as high as 30 degreess Celsius where I live, if I want to develope those nice aromas from the fermentation.
My doubt is if I can use the same amount of yeast of the recipe in such a hot temperature for 24h of fermentation.
I've been sucessfully making those no-knead breads popularized by Jim Lahey, and I use only 2g of fresh yeast for 400g of flour. After 24h, the dought is very sticky and much softer than the one of this recipe. So it's dificult to make a baguete with it. But the taste is wonderful - in fact, the best bread I've ever tryed!
So, I wanted to try a long fermentation at 30 degrees Celsius for this recipe and don't know how to change the amount of yeast to do it or other changes.. Would you help me? Thanks.
At 30C too many things can happen. This is not the best temperature to ferment dough for any length of time. Besides, the type of yeast, flour, and your environment can cause the dough to exhaust itself before it develops any flavor. You can definitely experiment with smaller amounts of yeast, but it is hard to tell you exactly how much based on the ingredients/conditions mentioned. This is where your practice comes into play. Start with half and see what happens.
A sourdough starter would work best, buts that’s a whole different lesson which will be covered down the road. It is much too complex to get into in the context of a forum. I say enjoy your cold beer while you wait for your dough to ferment :) Cheers!
First time I made bread - DISASTER!!! Of course I was dumb enough to try it without taking my Rouxbe lessons first. Second time I made it success!! It came out beautifully. The third time, I had to make 4 loaves for Thanksgiving. Getting each loaf to come out right was tricky. It is not a custom amount of flour. I am at high altitude (Denver 5280 ft) and usually have to add more flour than the recipe calls for.
I baked 3 loaves of bread in the oven, the first burned, the second and third came out fine even though they were all in the oven at the same time. Is that weird or is it just me? The fourth came out fine. In the end, I ended up with 3 good loaves of bread for tomorrow.
This all leads me to my question: I used 2 throw away pans and 1 baking sheet. However, I have on my Christmas list that I want a twin baguette bread pan that has the little holes in it for better steam circulation. Do you think this may help to solve my cooking time problem? Do you think it may be an altitude problem?
I know the biggest success factor is practice!!!
Second question, I have a stand mixer. I begin the kneading process in the mixer and finish it off by hand. I know I should do it all by hand to get the proper technique down, but kneading for 5-8 minutes wears my arms out!!!!! Is it OK to do it that way.
Thanks all. Happy Thanksgiving!
Yes, you are right. Bread making requires lots of practice to obtain consistent results. This is particularly true when you start scaling recipes and making bigger batches.
In terms of altitude, you will need to search out cookbooks that deal with altitude cooking as we are not the experts on this subject.
Perforated baking sheets will help to circulate air and can give baked goods a better rise in the oven.
Yes, you can begin the kneading process in the mixer and finish it off on the countertop. Cheers and Happy Thanksgiving to you as well!