To make the ganache, cut the butter into small pieces and let soften at room temperature. Next, chop the chocolate into small pieces. Heat the cream over medium-high heat. Once it comes to a gentle boil, pour it over the chocolate and let sit for a few minutes. Whisk until you reach a smooth consistency. Add the soft butter, whisk, cover and set aside.
Preheat your oven to 350° degrees Fahrenheit and prepare two 9" x 2" -inch non-stick cake pans. If not using non-stick pans, spray first with non-stick cooking spray.
In a large bowl, sift the flour, sugar, baking powder, baking soda, salt and cocoa powder together. Whisk until everything is evenly combined.
In a separate bowl, whisk the eggs, vanilla, and oil together. Then add the milk and cooled coffee and whisk until blended.
Pour the wet ingredients into the dry and whisk well, making sure everything is evenly combined.
Divide the batter between the baking pans and place immediately into the oven. Bake for approximately 40 to 45 minutes or until a wooden skewer comes out clean.
Remove the cakes from the oven and place onto a cooling rack for about 10 to 15 minutes. Flip the cakes onto a cooling rack, peel off the parchment and let completely cool before icing.
To assemble the cake, whisk the ganache. If your cakes have a dome shape, slice a bit off the top to even them out. Using an offset spatula, begin icing the cake by placing a large dollop of ganache in the center and spread it around evenly. Carefully place the second cake on top, crumb-side down.
If desired, you can do a crumb coat, but it's not absolutely necessary for this cake.
To finish decorating, ice the top and sides of the cake with the remaining ganache and serve.
If doing a crumb coat, be sure you don't refrigerate for more than a minute or two before putting on the second layer; otherwise, it will be too cold and the ganache could solidify.
This cake is great even when made a day in advance; just be sure to let it come to room temperature before serving.
Cake boards are sold in specialty baking shops but you can easily make your own. Just cut out a sturdy piece of cardboard and cover it completely with foil.
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hmm... It's delicious ^^
Can you show me the recipes of the other cakes? Like cheese, choux... I love all of them :)
This recipe (and others) would be even easier if we had metric weights and measures! Not asking to replace the ancient ways, but equal air-time would be a lifesaver, thanks!
This turned out to be a great birthday cake for my son's 14th. I subbed 2 Tbsp of the veg. oil with peanut oil. There was a subtle nuttiness about it. I used the thick ganche for the crumb layer and then whipped the final coat.
When I was shopping for chocolate, I saw chile infused bitter chocolate so I suppose chile oil could be interesting, too. Or how about any of the nut oils?
Easy to make and well presented, thank you Dawn!
Thank Dawn for showing me the methods in this recipe from start to finish. Learning this recipe is helpful in the sense that similiar recipes like the Sacher Torte and Opera torte is altmost the same except additional buttercream, cake syrup and chocolate glaze. May I know will you be teaching the 2 recipes I just mentioned for chocolate lover like me?
Alex
The cake turned out great and seeing the steps sured helped. My wife loved it, she is the chocolate fiend in our family.
Is it possible to back the cake on batches or do I have to back them on the same time ? my problem is that I only have one baking dish .
When baking, it is usually best to bake things right away. With things like cookies etc. it is fine to bake in batches, but with cake batters it is really best to bake them as soon as you mix all of the ingredients together as there is some chemistry happening here. Ingredients will start to react immediately. As a result, if you wait an hour or so on the second batch, the batter will be very different in composition.
You'd be better off buying a second pan or baking a larger cake in a 9X12 pan, then cutting it half to layer and ice.
Just made this yesterday for my math class, and it was a hit! I did go wrong a few times though.
1. Make sure to properly chop up ALL of the chocolate for the ganache. I got lazy towards the end, and had a lot of trouble with the larger pieces that then didn't melt.
2. Don't use a baking pan that is too wide. My cake ended up with thin edges and most of the batter in the center, so I couldn't get a nice uniform coating of the edges.
3. My fridge "froze" the ganache! I didn't have enough time to let it thaw, so it ended up standing in the sun before serving, and the ganache on top thawed. It was semi-hard in the middle. People actually liked that, though, so I don't know if it's really a mistake :)
All in all, it was still just chocolate cake and everyone loved it.
Glad the cake was a success. As for things going wrong...the frozen part for instance, you say people liked...that's the beauty of cooking, sometimes the mistakes are the best part.
If I were to make cup cakes w/ this recipe - how do the baking directions change?
Thanks.....
All would be the same, you would likely just need less baking time...this will depend on the size of cupcakes you make. I use this recipe often for cupcakes and it works perfectly.
Hope that helps, good luck!
Thanks Dawn - They usually take 22 minutes so I willl try that and let you know....
Thanks again...
This cake is the moistest cake ever. I layered it with a black cherry filling and the ganache on the outside. It was to die for. A week later it still tasted a fresh and moist as the day that I made it. Believe it. This is a winner! Thank you.
Could someone give me advice on how to make a strong cup of coffee to use when making this recipe. It looks so good but I usually drink my coffee pretty weak. Do you taste the coffee in the recipe?
The coffee does give the cake more flavor, but it's not necessarily a strong coffee flavor. In fact, no one ever knows there is coffee in it. To make a strong cup of coffee just add more grounds to your coffee maker (if that's how you make coffee in your house). Even a weaker cup of coffee would be better than adding water.
And you are right - this cake is "so good" ! hope this helps!
I made this for my wife for Mother's Day. It was a tremendous success. The video instructions were particularly helpful for getting the ganache the right consistency and for applying the icing. A wonderful recipe all around--very well balanced sweet and richness. My daughter is already asking when we are going to make this again. Thank you!
Each time i make the chocolate it doesn't turn out thick enough. Would this be because there is not enough chocolate? Or maybe the type of chocolate matters.
Hi Sam,
The consistency of the ganache will depend on the type of chocolate you use. For this recipe, we used a good QUALITY 54% chocolate. If you use a chocolate with a high cocoa butter content, it will likely be more liquidy. If you haven't worked much with chocolate, for ease of use and to prevent the ganache from splitting, I wouldn't use anything higher than 64%. We have a great introductory lesson on chocolate in the Cooking School: Basics of Quality Chocolate. Also remember to let the ganache properly cool before using. It can even be whipped a bit, as shown in the video, to thicken it. Hope this helps.
Love this recipe. My friend and I have been using this as a staple celebratory cake. Super yummy!
Step 3 of the video (at around 2:17) talks about crumb coating. Here is a bit more information. A crumb coat is a thin layer (or can be multiple layers) of frosting or icing that is applied before the final icing of a cake. It helps to seal in the moisture and more importantly it seals in any crumbs, so that they don't end up in the final frosting or icing.
Hope this helps!
Hi Dawn,
I just made the cake batter and would like to put it in the oven. However, the batter looks thinner than it does in your video (even after adding additional flower). How can I tell how thick it should be? I was very precise in my measurements...
I think before adding more flour you should have just baked it to see how it was.
I say, don't wait...bake it right away as batter shouldn't sit and see how it comes out. Your batter may just have looked thinner than what it "seemed" to look like on the video, but if you trust your measurements then you should be okay.
Good luck - let me know how it turns out!
Dawn,
the cake turned out excellent even with the extra flour.
I used whole-wheat pastry flour which surely changed the over-all taste, can I use "cake-flour" next time?
Also, I think next time I would like to jazz it up a bit by adding a hint of lavender. Please let me know if this would work out; 1) Soak lavender in the heavy-cream with a cheese cloth 2) soak lavender in the whole milk while warmed then allow to cool??? Could I use lavender-water instead of coffee or is that overkill?
Hi. Cake flour would produce a great cake as it is lower in gluten. You should watch this lesson in the cooking school as it will provide a lot of help to you in understanding which types of flours are better for certain things.
http://rouxbe.com/cooking-school/lessons/81-wheat-gluten
As for the lavender-water, you could try it. I personally don't think that it would be as tasty as the coffee infused version. In my opinion, "expectations" play a major role in cooking and serving food. If you do try this and I encourage you to try, be sure to tell people that this is a lavender-infused chocolate cake or they will find it might taste a bit funny. The reason is that people will expect the cake to have a very rich chocolatey flavor and not one with a floral taste. So be sure to set the expectations with your guests so they can evaluate the cake based on their expectations.
Good luck.
So, I made this cake before and it was perfect. However, this time I neglected to use my parchment paper :( The cakes stuck hard-core! When I turned it up-side down onto the platter I had a plate full of broken pieces of cake. They are both ruined! Any alternate uses for these tasty chunks? I don't want them to go too waste. Can I make something yummy?
Ah Yes...the parchment is an important step, I bet you won't make that mistake twice :-)
As for the cake you could just put some ice cream on top or you could make a nice triffle...maybe with some caramel sauce on top.
Milk chocolate ganache is a bit trickier to make since quality milk chocolate will contain milk solids (dark chocolate does not contain milk solids - refer to the Cooking School Lesson on the Basics of Quality Chocolate.
Depending on the type of milk chocolate you use, try a 2:1 ratio (2 parts chocolate to NO MORE than 1 part cream). I'd even skip or add just 1 ounce of unsalted butter. A bit of butter will give the ganache extra shine but too much might make it too fluid and hard to spread.
Dark chocolate is definitely easier to work with. We will be tackling ganache in the Cooking School in the near future. In the mean time, good luck! I hope this helps.
I made this cake again and as the first time the result was disappointing it didn't look anything like what you made but to tell you the truth this is the second time that I tries to frost a cake and as I understood it get's easier.
The trickiest part in my opinion is cutting the dome any idea on how to do it correctly?
The other funny thing is that the cake didn't take that long in the oven about 30 minutes and the skewer went out clean.
Hi Khaled,
You just need a steady hand and practice to be able to cut the dome off cakes. A rotating cake stand makes this easier but you just need to keep the knife level, saw gently back and forth while turning the cake, as shown in the video. Make sure you use a long, serrated knife to do this (larger than the cake).
As far as baking time goes, this just depends on your oven. You were right to check it. In culinary and pastry school, cooking and baking times are not given. It is done when it is done. Cooks in restaurants often have to share ovens so they have to make adjustments and know when to take things out based on one temperature being used. This is where you learn to watch for key indicators, rather than follow times - this also makes you free from the constraints of a recipe. Practice practice practice. That is what it is all about. Hope this helps!
This recipes is fantastic, everyone loves it. But I don't know what to do with the leftover ganache, I kept it in refrigerator but I don't know if I still can used it again. Please advise.
We've never had any leftover ganache from this recipe. Perhaps you are spreading it a bit too thin. However, if you do have any leftovers, the ganache will keep for quite some time in the refrigerator. Just let it come to room temperature and spread over other cakes, cupcakes or cookies. Or, grab a spoon and enjoy a little treat now and then :)
Try making a Ganache tart just bake the tart shell let it cool fill it with ganache cool in the fridge and enjoy...
I have used heart shape cookie cutter to make many little cakes and put the ganache only on the top. I do I keep these over night? Should I put it in an air tight container or in the fridge?
Thanks!
Nice idea! This cake will keep fine in an air tight container overnight. If you don't eat everything tomorrow, you can put it in an air tight container in the fridge to extend the shelf life by a few days. Just bring to room temperature before serving. Hope you enjoyed them!
This was wonderful! We had a pasta making party on Valentines Day and the cake was a hit for desert. I too made the mistake of putting the Ganache in the fridge...made it almost as hard as it's original chocolate form. I placed the bowl in a bowl of warm water and it was all ok. Next time I'll just "set it aside". I used 70% and although it was yummy, maybe next time I'll try 63%...might be a little sweeter.
Dawn,Rouxbe....thank you so much for this website. This was one of the best things I've ever spent money on (life time membership...ya ya!). I have so much fun cooking. Thank you
Great to hear you enjoyed the cake and that you are finding lots of value in Rouxbe. Happy cooking!
this is a such a moist and delicious cake! i strongly recommend it!
Made the cake again for one of my co-workers 25 year anniversay and it was a hit but the Ganache was still giving me trouble hardening up even though this time I didn't put it in the fridge. Read throught the receipe again and woops...it's 5oz of butter not 5 tablsp..I'm sure that should make a difference, can't wait to bake another one and try again.
i found that the cupcake does not have the details of the dinosaur on its surface. only when i turned a jelly out of the mould did the picture of a dinosaur turned out perfect.
may i ask is there a cake recipe that will show a clear dinosaur cupcake? perhaps if i pour liquid caramel on the bottom of the mould (to show the pattern) before adding the cake batter?
thank you.
alison
I think this might just be a case of what you are making. A jello or jelly will generally always show the shape of the mold better than a cake would.
You might want to do a bit of experimenting or maybe even do a bit more research as this is quite specific. I am sure there are even cookbooks that are dedicated to this sort of thing. Cheers!
I have made this cake several times now, and it is always amazing. My youngest daughter, however, has asked that I make her a white (or yellow) cake with chocolate frosting for her upcoming kindergarten graduation. I have tried twice now with recipes from various sources with disappointing results.
Dawn, do you have a white/yellow cake recipe that you would be willing to share? In terms of texture, moisture, and flavor, this is my all-time favorite cake recipe. I'm hoping you have a paler counterpart.
Thanks!
--Alvin
I do have one I will see what I can dig up and I will get back to you. For now I may just email you the recipe, but eventually I will put it up as a Rouxbe Recipe. Cheers!
Hi...
I have two questions :
1) Is it possible to bake the cake so that it doesn't have a dome ? I think it's much easier than just cutting the dome off which is the hardest step for me since I found it too hard to cut in a perfectly horizontal way. I saw once that wrapping the cake pan with moist towel can help.
2) Can I just bake one big cake instead of two small ones ? by making only one cut in the large cake I think you can have a cake that is more even.
To prevent dome/humped cake tops, you need to check the internal temperature of your oven. It is likely too hot. An oven that is too hot will cause the cake to set unevenly and have a humped center. Also, if the cake sets before it has fully risen, it will have poor volume/texture.
When baking more than one cake, make sure that the pans aren't touching each other so there is good air circulation.
If you do have a dome, you can also flip the cake upside down (if you're icing it) so that the hump is on the bottom.
And, yes, you can bake one cake instead of two small ones. You can even make cupcakes out of this batter. You'll just need to adjust the baking time. Cheers!
This cake was very easy to make and turned out perfectly. It was a big hit at my dinner party last night!
I made the chocolate ganache cake and it was delicious. When I was making the cake the only problem I had with my cake was the bitter after taste how can I correct that and what did I do wrong. I will be trying it again. My daughter loved it.
It could be the type of chocolate, cocoa powder or coffee that you are using. The next few times you make the cake, tweak these ingredients to see if you notice a difference in flavor.
Also, make sure you've measured your baking powder and baking soda accurately. Cheers!
My wife made the chocolate ganache cake for Thanksgiving and it received rave reviews. She even made it the day before and it was as moist as could be for the next two days and then it was all gone. She wants to make this cake and plus a "white" version for our annual neighborhood Christmas Eve celebration. Would it work to make the ganache with good quality white chocolate? How do you think a white chocolate flavor would be with lemon cake? Can you send me your white cake recipe?
This is definitely A chocohaulic's cake. So very moist. I made about 20 cupcakes and a one layer cake 'cause I only had one round pan. Both turned out great and plus it's a no brainer! THANKS
Just a stupid question, why do we make the ganache first? Wouldn't it save time to make the ganache while the cake is baking? just a thought :D
Not a stupid question Monique...it really just comes down to having to put one step before the other. Doing the ganache first ensures that it is cool enough for when the cake is done (and cooled). If you want to do it while the cake bakes then you certainly can. For some people it is harder to do something while something else is baking as they may not be as fast etc.
For almost any recipe many steps can be done at different times. I always try to do stuff while other stuff is boiling, baking, sauteing etc. but we cannot always write the recipes that way. Once you become comfortable with a recipe you can really go in any order that works for you. Cheers!
Oh thanks, I hesitate to change stuff right now because I'm still learning lots oc techinique and I thought there was some logical reason that I ignored. Since it was my first time, I preferred to follow the recipe to a "T"
Thanks again, PS Dawn, feel like I know you! That is your voice we hear on the videos, right?
Indeed, that is my voice that you hear Monique (although in "real life" I am a bit more crazy and loud...shhhh don't tell anyone).
I am glad to hear that you feel like you know me because I always think the same thing of all of you. I feel like we all have some special "Rouxbe/culinary" bond. Cheers!
Any advice on how to make a white chocolate ganache to make a "white" version of your chocolate ganache cake, which was such a hit? Do you plan to post your favorite dense, white cake recipe in the near future?
White chocolate ganache can be tricky to make because there is no cocoa mass in the chocolate - only cocoa butter - so it is much softer. For more information, you might want to check out the lesson on The Basics of Quality Chocolate. Depending on the cocoa butter content, you'll need to add less cream and much less butter. This will be covered in a future pastry lesson. Sorry, but we currently don't have a recipe for a dense white cake on Rouxbe. Hang in there :)
Hey, tks for the recipe, it really worked out great! I was kinda proud of myself, which rarely happens when I cook deserts! :)))
I really want to enrich this recipe with some Southern Comfort but i don't know how it will work better - in the ganache or in the cake. How do you think some alcohol will affect this recipe?
Yes, you can add a bit to either. Just adjust one of the liquids. For the ganache, I wouldn't add more than a tablespoon or so - could be too overpowering. Cheers!
I don't have baking soda available in the whole city. Is there any substitute for baking soda??
Here is some information on baking soda. Potassium bicarbonate (sodium-free; substitute measure for measure) can be used.
If you don't have normal cake pans, a spring form pan would work. Just make sure it has a tight seal and grease them well. Cheers!
I read the article about backing soda and I realized it's the same as bicarbonate of soda is that right? I also knew that it's been used in recipes with acid ingredient so what is the acid here? is it coffee?
I made this cake for our daughter in laws b-day. Everybody loved it. It baked up so nice and the gnache was just the right touch for chocolate lovers like us. Thanks!
The "minimum" 54% cocoa mass refers to the chocolate (not the cocoa powder) in Step 1 of the recipe. The cocoa used in Step 2 is Dutched. For more information on the difference, refer to the lesson in the cooking school on the Basics of Quality Chocolate. Cheers!
I am also referring to Step 1 of the recipe. The "minimum" 54% cocoa is the chocolate used to make the ganache. We say "minimum" as you can use chocolate that is higher than this. In the video we also mention that you are looking to buy a good quality chocolate that is "at least" 54%. Hope this helps to clear things up for you. Cheers!
Thank you very much, the cake turned out very well. The forsting, very rich and smooth. Great recipe.
My nephew loved these: make little balls out of the left-over ganache and wrap pinky finger size sugar cookie dough around the outside. Roll it in sugar. press with a small glass to flatten. It doesn't stick because of the sugar. Bake at 350* (180C) for 15 minute depending on your altitude. This uses up any left-over, but I think he would rather just eat it straight. My sister would, however, shoot me if I permitted him to do such a thing. I'm wrapped around his finger as it is!
This is great!. the Chocolate videos is the Best... hey, would you guys adopt me?... I am having so much fun with Rouxbe!....
This really is a very moist cake. Perhaps you might have measured incorrectly or over baked the cake a bit. Make sure you try it again as it is quite delicious. Cheers!
As Kimberley states, measuring incorrectly can be a cause. I used to pack flour in a measuring cup until I learned a cup of flour should weigh 4 1/4 oz. The King Arthur Flour web site actually has a video showing how to properly measure flour. Click on recipes and go to online baking resources and there is a heading called measuring flour. Basically you fluff the flour first, sprinkle it into a straight edged one cup measuring cup and scrape off the excess. Using this technique has greatly improved my baking results.
My oven could only fit in one 9in pan, and in the comment above it said it's not really good to bake in batches. So is it okay for me to cut the ingredients by half and make the batter in batches then bake them? please don't tell my to buy a new oven...that would not be an option (even though I really want to buy a new one. *sob*)
Yes, you can definitely cut the ingredients in half and bake each cake off as you mix it. Happy cake making!
don't know if i missed it or what, but i don't see in the video where sugar is added in and neither is in the text. Hope I didn't miss it?
right after the post i checked it again and the word sugar just stares me in the face! so sorry!
Hi Kay,
There has been plenty of discussion on high altitude baking in the forum. If you type in "altitude" in the search bar at the top right of any page, then click on the forum discussion tab, you'll find some useful information, in particular this post. Cheers!
Could I use this as a topping for profiteroles? Also in The dark chocolate always seem to be 70% or higher. I never see anything that says 54%.
You could try using this particular ganache for profiteroles but keep in mind that it will thicken substantially as it cools, so it won't be pourable. You could pour the ganche over the profiteroles just after making it (allow it to cool just slightly) but serve the profiteroles immediately. The ganache will soften the profiteroles if they are stored for any length of time.
54% cocoa mass is quite common; if you can't find it, use anywhere between 54 to 70%...not much higher than this or the chocolate will affect the texture of the ganache. Cheers!
I made the cake a day in advance, how should i store it? It's a little warm in my apartment so im nervous to leave it out.
Here is a post from earlier in this same thread that you may find helpful. Cheers!
I want to make this cake and I am wondering if I would be able to whip some of the ganache, then fold in more whipped cream to make a filling? The cake looks dense so I didn't know if it would be too heavy for a whipped cream filling. Any other suggestions for filling choices?
Thanks
I think the cake will be okay with a whipped cream filling. It can be tricky to combine ganache with whipped cream because the cold cream with the not-so-cold ganache can seize and become lumpy/grainy. You can fill the cake with buttercream, jam, chocolate mousse or turn it into a black forest cake with whipped cream and cherries. There are plenty of recipes on the web for fillings. This caramel one sounds nice. Cheers!
Thanks for tip on combining ganache and whipped cream, I don't want that to happen. Caramel sounds wonderful. Thanks again for the advice.
You could try and cut it into 16 pieces but that's stretching it. The thinner the pieces get, the harder it will be to cut into nice, even pieces. Besides, this cake is so good that you might make some guests sad with only a few bites. You might get away with it if you decide to make cupcakes from the batter. Cheers!
I finally got to make this cake - WOW it was good! I had a few questions as posted above and now I know the answers. You can actually get 16 pieces of cake out of this. I must say that I would personally enjoy a larger piece, but for the dinner party it was fine. There were appetizers, salad, entree and dessert...so a small piece worked out good.
I also asked about filling options, but made it as is this first time and it was great. I was concerned that the batter seemed so thin, but it baked up with a beautiful texture. I want to try a filling next time now that I know how the cake will hold up. I had never made ganache before and was extremely surprised how easy it was not to mention good!
Thanks for the tips and the wonderful recipe. I will definitely make this again!
Planning to make this cake for about forty people..How many servings will i get from this recipe? Thanks
The recipe states that this cake will serve 8-12 people. However, the 3 comments above also talk about this same subject. The comment directly above yours mentions that they were able to cut the cake into 16 pieces. It really just depends on the sizes you want. Cheers!
First off, this turned out incredibly good when I made it. Density is perfect - and taste.... well out of this world!
Question is this: My hubby was less impressed than me because he has a super sweet tooth and wished the ganache was sweeter. So would you just switch to a milk chocolate from the semi sweet or would you still use the semi sweet and add some kind of sweetener to the ganache? Or maybe use half milk choc and half semi-sweet? Probably doesn't matter but just checking in case there is a best way to get a sweeter ganache.
Unfortunately, milk chocolate, in this particular recipe, cannot be substituted. It has a higher cocoa content and will not set properly. You can experiment with different types of dark chocolate, which will provide a different flavor, but make sure they are still of a good quality (54% cocoa mass). Check out the Basics of Quality Chocolate lesson in the Cooking School for more information on choosing/identifying quality chocolate. Cheers!
I am sure this cake would work fine for a black forest cake. Would it be "classic" or "traditional", that I am not surel: however, it will still taste good. Cheers!
For Thanksgiving 2011 we decided to make everything from this website for the first time. Our Menu consisted of the following:
Turkey and Gravy
Mashed Potatoes
Candied Yam
Stuffing
Cranberry Sauce
Chocolate Ganache Cake
Everything made from scratch and followed the recipe to the tee, most items grown from our garden (and from Organic Local Farms). Did we say everything tasted fantastic? Wow! We're going to make this same recipe again next year!
We made this during Thanksgiving 2011 and it was so moist and delicious my wife made it for my birthday. She used 2C of sugar instead of 2 1/4C and it was equally moist and delicious. We will be making this regularly on special occasions or even "just because." :)
It depends on how big you make them. For an average sized cupcake you would likely get at 12. Cheers!
Great cake!!!
I used 70% cocoa but found that I had to add some confectioners sugar to reduce the bitterness a bit. The next time I plan to use the 54% chocolate. One of the things I realized too late is that the cocoa should be more evenly and finely chopped to properly melt in the warmed cream. Luckily there weren't too many small chunks left and they pretty much blended in with the appearance of the cake.
I don't have 9 x 2 inch pans; the closest size I could find were about 10.5 x 1.5 inches. This more thinly distributed batter and the fact that I had to place one on the rack and the other on the tray of the oven affected the baking time.
TIP: the removable rotating disk with wheels and glass dish from a microwave oven works just as well as a rotating cake tray when icing a cake.
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