— Cindi Eckert

As for the burger, I say that the trick to a burger is having a good binding agent and also having enough grains that when, uh, the liquid component to your burger and the oat meat, that they become solid and make a really good burger. Um, my favorite burger, of course, is the Yo Adrian Burger that's in the Engine two cookbook. And that was a recipe that I created for, um, rip Jane Nessel. And the trick to it is, before you even make a burger, is to cover the mixture with some kind of wrap and let put it in the refrigerator so that the ingredients really meld together well. And then there you go. I know sometimes some people will cook on a cedar plank when they're grilling a burger so that the cedar plank will give a, you know, a nice cedar flavor. And also that if the burger should break up, it's not gonna fall down into the grill. So, uh, those would be my, uh, my two suggestions.